Uzamaki Naruto Vs Himiko Toga (MHA VS NARUTO) - Battles - Comic Vine (2024)

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Beginning of shippuden naruto Vs Swp toga (sad woman parade)

Speed equalise

Battle take place at gunga

Win by death

All equipment characters have in this form are allowed

A battle of attrition and stamina, unless Naruto finds the real Toga, then he stomps. Otherwise, I think it's up to which one can last longer spamming clones.

@belando: i think toga has naruto beat in both making more clones and making it faster due to the fact that toga clones can make more clones and even clones of naruto himself. From our knowledge from twice, we know that toga can likely spam her clones infinitely.

@savage_emperor1: True, Twice's quirk definitely has the numbers advantage and doesn't require anything to be used, but Toga's quirk duration is supposedly based on the amount of blood she consumed. A single drop is enough for her to become someone for quite some time, and I'm going to assume the villains prepped a ton of blood for her to use. Not sure what her limit is, but it exists.

Going with Naruto since he himself and by extension his clones are superior to toga and have the option to spam rasengan's for easy kills

In a normal battle she would be able to span clones of the other league of villains including Shigaraki and AFO, the only reason she isn’t able to abuse their quirks rn is cause Toga’s hatred for heroes is conflicting with her love. That won’t apply here, and thus Naruto has to deal with haxes he has no defense against

While you are partially correct here, we do know the amount of blood toga did consume and dabi statement already disprove the claim of lov still having more of twice blood.

As for her limit, we don't know how it is gonna be. Because even if toga where to turn good all of a sudden, we don't know if she can stop the twice clone by her self. Example being if toga should transform into shoto and spam a huge chunk of his ice and where to later turn back to her self the ice is still gonna be their. So even if we say that she's gonna be reaching her limit before naruto (which i doubt) the probability of her clones not disappearing is still huge and given the fact that she was capable of bringing shigaraki, twice, dabi and abomination tsuyu without their measurements, what say she can't cause a bit of confusion by spamming naruto clones.

Toga probably

@savage_emperor1:

Example being if toga should transform into shoto and spam a huge chunk of his ice and where to later turn back to her self the ice is still gonna be their.

I don't think this example works. As with Twice, when he died, his clones dissipated as well. It's up to the main user/body for the clones to exist. This is something we know for a fact. While Shoto's ice is real ice. It wouldn't disappear if Shoto did.

Because even if toga where to turn good all of a sudden, we don't know if she can stop the twice clone by her self.

So even if we say that she's gonna be reaching her limit before naruto (which i doubt) the probability of her clones not disappearing is still huge

The difference is that Twice can only double himself, he doesn't have a way to "turn off" his quirk. Toga however can, or at some point must. Therefore, it's all going to depend on how much blood she consumed and how long it lasts/she wills it.

But from the panels I posted above, Toga creates oceans of clones that would keep coming. It's incredible.

And as a side note, I recommend using mangapill.com for scans. They have the officials free.

I think Naruto takes this, as all of Naruto's clones stomp any number of her clones

@belando: I think the recent chapter spoiler already disprove your claim. Toga is already transforming into human and yet her clones aren't disappearing and she can still manipulate it in her base.

@savage_emperor1: It's not a claim. When Twice died, all his clones eventually dissapeared. If the original source either dies or in Toga's case, runs out of blood, the clones would dissapear. Toga clearly has control of both Twice's qurik and her own, since she can get clones to consume blood and turn into other people, like she did with Froppy and Jiro.

While Shoto creates real ice that exist regardless of what happens to him.

@belando: yeah i agree with the shoto fact but completely disagree with your comparison especially when both toga and twice quirk doesn't work similarly.

The whole point of SWP is for toga to turn into people she loves (twice) and use their quirk. Their have never been an instance of toga using someone else's quirk while not transform to that person. If she could do what you are saying as long as their is her loved one blood in her system, then we would seen her be able to use ochako quirk without turning to ochako.

The fact that toga is going to her base and her clone is still intact, it only further more proves my point and ochako and the rest of the hero will deal with the clone. This is basically the whole point of ochako awakening her quirk.

Naruto still, exponential clones are great and all but even just gamabunta alone could stomp thousands of them

@manimalman: but naruto barely even uses gamabunta at the beginning of shippuden.

@savage_emperor1: the only thing that can help naruto here is if Nine tails take over a bit like he did against orochimaru

@savage_emperor1:

completely disagree with your comparison especially when both toga and twice quirk doesn't work similarly.

I never compared the two.

Toga can currently use Twice's quirk due to consuming his blood.
The clones are still *her*, and have Twice's blood in their system.
This also allows each and every clone to use her actual quirk, allowing them to transform into others (Froppy, Jiro, Uraraka, etc) and back to Twice.
When Toga's time limit/Twice's blood is over, the clones seize to exist, as "double" no longer exists, like when Twice died.

I personally think this is clear, but let's see what happens.

@belando: said: (When Twice died, all his clones eventually dissapeared. If the original source either dies or in Toga's case, runs out of blood, the clones would dissapear. )

This is a comparison.

Like i said before, toga is already in her normal form and her clones are not still gone. We literally saw the slimy goo removing from her body as that what usually happens when she transform back. We don't have any proof or evidence that imply what you are saying.

You are legitly proving my point for me. All the other clones are still toga as we saw when she first transform, they inherit/was influence by her will to kill. Currently, the recent chapter shows 3 or maybe 4 clones being turned back into toga while the rest remain as twice.

Like i said before if toga should turn good or die the clones won't be affected by it because they are all toga and they seem to have twice property, their number is gonna keep on increasing with or without toga.

But i guess the reasonable conclusion should be lets wait and see.

@savage_emperor1:

This is a comparison.

That's not a comparison. That's explaining how Twice's quirk works. He can create clones, and when he dies, or the quirk no longer exists, the clones disappear.

Like i said before, toga is already in her normal form and her clones are not still gone. We literally saw the slimy goo removing from her body as that what usually happens when she transform back. We don't have any proof or evidence that imply what you are saying.

But we do. Toga can still access both Twice's quirk and her quirk. As long as she has Twice's blood, the doubles will exist. If Toga dies, runs out of blood, or for whatever reason can't use Twice's powers, double will no longer exist, like we saw happen with Twice himself.

You are legitly proving my point for me. All the other clones are still toga as we saw when she first transform, they inherit/was influence by her will to kill. Currently, the recent chapter shows 3 or maybe 4 clones being turned back into toga while the rest remain as twice.

Quite the opposite.

Toga can only use "double" when she's Twice, like how she could only use float when she was (partly) Uraraka.

But double will continue to exist for as long as the duration of his blood will allow it, like how float would continue to run its course as long as she has Uraraka's blood, as she had to "release" as Uraraka at the time to make the Meta Liberation Army fall.

Returning to herself doesn't "remove" the quirk, it's just a temporary change between characters she has the blood of. Remember, Toga is cloning herself with a set duration of Twice's blood.

Like i said before if toga should turn good or die the clones won't be affected by it because they are all toga and they seem to have twice property, their number is gonna keep on increasing with or without toga.

But i guess the reasonable conclusion should be lets wait and see.

Yeah, time will tell if Toga with Twice's quirk magically changes Twice's quirk...

@savage_emperor1: Not to be petty, but yeah: